Topic: Natural improvement of character's stats

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    Avatar photoGotanmarf


    In previous post I read that: “At this time, the player can select 3 out of 6 stats to improve by a randomized amount (dice throw) on levelup”.
    Why not natural progression of stats, like in old x-com?
    + Melee skill & Ranged skill – improves after successful hit.
    + Defense – improves after successful dodge, or blocking by everything besides armor.
    + Stamina and Fatigue – improves after regeneration of vital energy (bigger regeneration means bigger improvement).
    + Hitpoints – improves after healing (bigger healing means bigger improvement).
    + Armor – improves after successful blocking, using armor.
    + Initiative – improves after successful reaction.

    Of course natural improvements should be slow and limited by inborn characteristic, individual for each brother.

    Avatar photoGotanmarf

    … and from that sum of natural improvements (hidden from player’s view) should be made dice throw on levelup. I think this is cool idea.

    Avatar photoGotanmarf

    You may say that player can cheats by walking aimlessly on map, to exercise stamina, for example. I think that there are methods to prevent this. The game can count variety of actions for specific brother, on single battle. If, for him, there are just repetitions of particular action, then shouldn’t be any improvement, from this single battle, connected with that action.

    Avatar photoRap


    There are two major reasons why we decided not to use a system of natural improvement like you propose.

    As a general design goal, we want the player to have a certain amount of control over how his or her Battle Brothers develop. With natural improvement, that control could only be exercised in how the player employs Battle Brothers in combat situations, which creates a conflict of interests. On one hand, the player should want to fight as effectively as possible, and we want the player to have an experience that feels natural and (within the limitations of this being a 2d game and all that) be an immersive pseudo-medieval battle. Yet on the other hand, the player would be lured to change his or her tactics for the meta-gaming aspect of making optimal use of the system of natural improvement, e.g. risk the lives of Battle Brothers solely to increase their hitpoints in the long run.

    A system of natural improvement requires substantially more effort in balancing to work well. It’s not insurmountable, but it is a part that can easily break and isn’t nearly as easily fixed, as even AAA games show (e.g. Skyrim). A system like this is easily exploitable, as you mentioned yourself, and the mindset that it comes with for many players would undermine the atmosphere and feeling of urgency and danger that we’re actively trying to establish.

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    Avatar photoGotanmarf

    Ok, it’s bearable. Now I see why you chose other approaches, which are closer to game theory than to simulation theory.

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