Reply To: Utility Skill Tree Discussion

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Utility is my favorite tree. Offense/defense builds tend to be lackluster in my experience, I’d rather specialize in one and supplement with utility on almost everyone.

Tier 1 – Strong, but unvarying.

    B&B and QH

This combo is so good I only make 1 or 2 guys at best who don’t go at least minor utility for this. Only dedicated 2-handers really. Everyone else has so much to gain from this combo and with utility you can pick your other perks to supplement whatever their role is. Not saying they are OP, but it feels almost automatic to me to have this on guys as early as feasible.


Not sure this is really working. Even on high resolve guys, there are still shieldwalls going up, people still don’t attack the taunter if there’s a better target in range, and it just overall feels like it’s a do nothing ability. Sounds great on paper if it worked the way you’d think it does.


Actually useless. The cost is far too high to warrant getting (not really)maxed a little quicker. Never, ever take this.

    Shield Bash

I actually liked the idea of this, when I thought it worked with Fearsome. Light damage, positional control, constant morale checks and fatigue damage all in one. It doesn’t appear to though. Also, in the testing I’ve done, it appears that even with this skill, if there’s no open spot for the opponent to be pushed to, knock back auto misses. I’m not 100% on that, but with 95% chance to hit, multiple misses in multiple different battles against varied enemies makes it seem to be the case. Disappointing.


Basically the auto third pick in tier 1 since others appear broken or useless. It’s handy and gives tremendous advantage anywhere that’s not flat plains. Best for ranged and ranged hunters, but right now an autopick for anyone going into utility due to issues with the other options.

Tier 2 – Now we’re getting interesting.


Good perk for 2-handers, and to a lesser extent melees in general. You can add a ton of survivability to them without pouring a bump every level up into fatigue. Combos nicely with full force too. Usually not the strongest option though.

    Battle Flow

It’s good, but I have a love/hate relationship with it. When it’s clutch, it’s clutch as hell. The rest of the time it does very little. Usually put it on ranged with perfect focus. Works ok on 2-handers and dedicated dagger guys too. Probably wouldn’t put it on anyone else myself, except MAYBE a swordmaster.


Put this on javelineers with bullseye, close combat archer and killing frenzy. Profit. Good on any fragile ranged/utility guys you really don’t want to die also. Otherwise there are better options.


Get one. Super helpful in tough situations, and just generally useful anyway. I pretty much always try to get a really good captain with inspiring presence and load up any basic shield/x guys with holdout. Shield wall starts with confident for +10 melee ranged mdefense and rdefense? Plus a huge resolve bonus? Yes please.


As this reduces all skill costs this is pretty good. I find it to be more useful than battle flow most of the time, as the pre-action reduction can actually help you kill the guy if it’s a drawn out battle, whereas with BF you might lose out on an action, and a kill. With some weapons, you can basically attack all day and not really build up any significant fatigue. Usually preferred over BF.


Very good. Awesome on ranged guys or 1-handers with good hit chance. Try putting this on your whole front line and just spread the love around on your enemies. You’ll be chopping guys down with attacks of opportunity in no time.

Tier 3 – This is why you go full utility.

    Rally the Troops

Insanely good. Probably the best perk in the game right now. On the right brother you can restore 50% max fatigue to your whole team at once. Crazy good. If you don’t have at least one guy with this, you’re making your life harder.

    Inspiring Presence

Also incredibly good. Starting everyone with combat bonuses and an extra step away from bad morale is huge. If you somehow don’t feel you can spare 2 slots for tier 3 utility guys, then take rally over this. Otherwise, you want one guy with this. As I said earlier, combos nicely with holdout for morale shenanigans.

In summary, tier 1 could use some work, otherwise, IMO, utility is easily the best tree right now. I’ve made guys that take 9 or 10 perks in utility (holdout being the 10th for them) with usual tier 1, all 6 (or minus footwork) and inspiring presence. Try it, they’re beasts.