Topic: Morale Checks While Stunned?

I’d say dodging an attack in stunned state is even more unrealistic, but it happens all the time nonetheless..

I think you’re “defaulting” to how the “Stun mechanic” is built in many games.
I mean in most games the “Stunned status effect” completely incapacitates the target for a set period of time, but one could argue that it’s just an arbitrary gameplay decision (and a completely correct interpretation of the meaning that word carries, but not the only one).

Let’s say you’re referring to a “Hard Stun”, while in Battle Brothers you get only a “Light Stun”, that dazes you for a turn but still leaves you (mostly) capable to defend yourself as you’re struggling to recover.

To me it’s fine calling this a Stunned state, even if it differs to what being Stunned is in most of other games =)

RusBear wrote:

the enemy who fleeing in panic continues to hide behind the shield if he covered before then panicked. I can’t agree with this too )

If I’m not mistaken, a stunned or panicked character do lose shieldwall, are you sure about it?

EDIT: Sorry RusBear I read that backwards, my bad XD
I think that if a character routs and starts fleeing from the battle, he’s turning and leaving its back exposed (and with his mind numbed by fear he doesn’t realise that by doing that he’s in more danger than if he kept defending himself), that’s why dropping shieldwall and other sustained abilities while panicked makes sense to me.

RusBear wrote:

You do not need to apologize, it’s my fault – my English is very bad. I will try to speak more clearly: the shield bonus continues to operate even when the enemy flees from the battlefield.

Perhaps the bonus should be reduced, but unless the character drops the shield, I suppose that it is still possible for the shield to block some kind of attack, whether it is intentional to block it or not.

Wargasm wrote:

The only trouble with that is that orc young and berserkers can stun automatically, without even doing any damage.

They stun only if they ‘hit‘ with their charge skill, but if it’s a ‘miss‘, then no stun applies. So it’s ok as it is – good base defence or shieldwall and you’re safe.

If we assume the stun here is like being disoriented or just breaking a posture enough to drop riposte/shield/spearwall, then the mercenary still can hear and see what happened around him, so morale check should work as usual.

If I was fleeing in fear for my life, whether or not i held on to my shield would be entirely dependent on context. It might be that dropping everything possible and running would save me. If I’m under fire, I don’t think I’d let go of that shield for anything – I can’t sidestep a cross bow bolt when jogging, but a big shield would cover my torso.

There should be multiple possible outcomes as to what a character does when he (she in the future?) routes. Example:

(a) No weapon drop
(b) Drops one item
(c) Drops all items

Then they realise that they’re f*cked and begin shitting bricks..
After that they can try to scavenge some weapons someone had before, or hide behind the trees and continue shitting bricks.