Topic: Super Awesome Ninja Goblin Fun Time!

You are absolutely right. Even weak goblins – a deadly danger for the party level 1-5. A shot from a crossbow overseer – a 1- shot circulated to all who are not health above 60 hp and not wearing armor more than 100. But I played in the new patch more than 300 days of play different teams, and came to the conclusion that in fact the most dangerous enemy is 10-12 Orc Warriors. Top armor and weapons allow you to easily straightened with goblins- arbalester 11 level is likely to kill a goblin with a single shot and hit him in spite of the overcharge protection of these small creatures. but Orc Warrior in New patche- special enemy – this game is simply no such armor and shields to withstand their onslaught, and no such weapons to allow you to kill them earlier than you run out of fatigue. limit the level of 11 and this +2 to melеe atack and def just will not let you bring up such brothers- who could effectively defend themselves and inflict damage on them.

Goblins are very tricky early on, but shield wall and some range defense does the trick very well. Crossbow is much better than bows against them – you get +20% chance to hit, as well as spears (especially early on) are very effective because you will find it easier to hit them. You can fight them easily at night – their archers are much less effective, so all you need is decent shield wall and some reach (range 2) weapons for your success. I’m playing on deadly self-imposed ironman difficulty and I find them very fun & challenging, especially early on – you’ll probably lose some fresh meat, but you should do fine! They wear you out more than they kill you, in my opinion. Usually the recovery time due to poison and all the damage they inflict takes long time. Overall I would rate them highly, but in my opinion they are not as scary as early orc warriors / orc warlord.

I find goblins weakest of all races. And i play deadly, ironman mode. People are just lazy and don’t change equipment and tactics according to what type of enemy is encountered. For goblins u need big shields on everyone, preferably feral or kite shields. All archers must change weapon to bow because of the extra range needed to snipe ambushers. Also dogs, as many as you can find. Just focus everything on ambushers, without breaking defensive line. Cuz thats when the skirmishers enter. 37 days in without save scumming. Eating goblins like bananas. Just beaten army of them supported by shaman without losing one guy. Please, if game is too hard, choose easier difficulty. Not cry on forums and try to destroy fun for me. Or other people who like tactics.

Edit: Forgot to add, i always fight goblins during day because i trust my archers. Also i hate night battles. Nearly as much as trees and every other thing that obscures the grid and pieces on it. Can somebody make “stumps only” mode?

Ya ok sure, Goblins are weaker than Bandits… ya credibility lost.

Bandit thugs are just peasants, but they belong to wide race known as human.

So you have enough money to buy all the needed gear and all of your guys have the luxury of having kite shields? Good for you, you encountered them mid-game. Try getting jumped early game and tell me how you do. When you are poor, you don’t have gear and you certainly don’t have an armory to choose from. If goblins are a mid-end game creature, then keep them there. Don’t blow up my early game progress with ambushers on a caravan mission.

Thats why u have feral shields. Easy to get your hands on. Dont even tell me that u got defeated on caravan mission:DD These are the easiest u know.

If you are above a 10% chance to hit with a bow, you have enough levels to hold your own.Once again having dogs is a luxury. Especially if you started on deadly.

Now i feel that once any of your brothers is dead, you just surrender. You gave got to try man.

Look who wins the pompous jerk award.
1. You are Arrogant- you got lucky if the first instance of you fighting goblins was when you had a full armory.
2. You are Ignorant- The difficulty of the game does not change stats in any way, just starting gold.
3. You make ASSumptions- Don’t assume I don’t like/love tactics, but having a high tier creature set destroy a low level merc group and the city they ran to is ridiculous for any game.
3. A breakdown is not “crying”, its say “hey do something about the goblins at low levels.”

I had 2 bands of goblins on caravan missions, didnt have feral shields nor dogs. But still. It was caravan mission.

This, this is what really destroys any credibility you have and tells me you are trolling. I mean seriously, I could care less if they “nerf” the goblins, I just don’t want an enemy I have no chance of beating on the map within 1 hour of starting.

You just “dont want”? Nice. My 3 years old son, “dont want” to brush his teeth. Im not gonna even comment on all these insults. Cuz clearly you are underage.

Whatever, just remember about difficulty slider.

Okay, goblins are tough, but they’re not THAT bad. They’re a danger in the early game, sure, and you can lose some guys to them in the late game if you’re really unlucky, but you generally shouldn’t have any trouble defeating them if you can make it to the late game.

I’ll be assuming in this post, however, that you’re fighting them in the early game.

Goblins have a high defense, sure – but their HP is horrible. A stray breeze knocks them dead. They also don’t deal very much damage save for the Overseers, and the wolf-riders are honestly a laughable threat. Goblin melee damage is awful.

The main dangers when fighting goblins are:

1) The archers, and…
2) The shamans.

Given that, you should equip yourself differently when going up against Goblins. There are a few things you can do to increase your chances of winning.

First: Get Kite Shields or Feral Shields; those will help you deal with their ranged attacks. Don’t worry about wasting your movement points putting up a shield wall, though; chances are you’ll need those movement points.

Second: When you start the battle, count how many archers they have. If they’re got a lot of them, they’re going to be your priority to kill… and the best way to do so is to back up. I know that sounds weird, but that forces the archers to step forward to shoot at you, and it lets you reposition and find better vantage points from which to fight. Indeed, doing this seems to make the pikemen lurk along the sides or even behind the archers, making it easier for you to rush forward and deal with them (or to rush forward and release the hounds).

Third: Speaking of releasing the hounds, dogs are great. 2-3 cheap dogs released at a line of exposed archers will keep them from firing arrows for a turn or two, and should give you time to engage yourself. Is it costly? A little. I’d argue it’s worth it.

Fourth: Your biggest problem arises when there’s a shaman in their ranks. That shaman can immobilize several guys at once, so if you fight one, stay spread out. Keep a loose formation until you can engage.

And finally: If you lose a battle where you have 30 guys vs. their 6 and you lose, either the RNG hates you or you really need to rethink how you play this game.

Goblins aren’t unstoppable. They’re rough, and they force you to play the game differently than you might play against other enemies. Indeed, whenever we can finally have more than 12 guys in our army (I assume we’ll eventually have reserves), I’m probably going to make a few Anti-Goblin tanks with high ranged defense and kite shields. Until then, you just need to fight them carefully, use dogs as distractions, or else throw human meatshields you don’t care about forward as bait. Step back, let them expose their archers, and then go for the kill.

They’re way easier for me to fight than an army of Vampires, Fallen Heroes and Necromancers, I’ll tell you that.