Topic: Best Talents to pick

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  • #19312
    GreedGreed
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    The questio is ordinally:Whta talents do u pick on u brothers?(maybe the topic is exist but i cant still finde it)

    #19314
    RedSharkRedShark
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    It depends on brother and your playing style. But “nine lives” and “quick hands” are my favs.

    #19322
    MGL
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    Tier 1: Nine lives, crippling strike, pathfinder or maybe colosuss
    Tier 2: Gifted, every time, regardless build. On my seargents and archers i go back and pick fortified mind/quickhands later on.
    Tier 3: Brawny, backstabber(polearm dudes) or shield expert.

    From thereon out, its usually Reach advantage-berserk-killing frenzy. or Rally the troops-seargent-*insert flavour*.

    My decent background, skillstar bro’s who dont fit the bill for polearm/seargent or 2H, i usually go down shield expert-rotation-battle forged.

    #19329
    WargasmWargasm
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    By “talents”, I think of the attributes you can level-up (some of which have stars indicating talent), but everyone’s responded as though it means “perks”. But …

    For those I see being shielded melee fighters (often wildmen, prizefighters, farmhands, vagabonds, messengers):

    – Tier 1: Colossus (sometimes Nine Lives for a frail one whose hit points aren’t worth increasing, or Pathfinder for one who’s unlikely to get hit much, and sometimes I come back and take Fast Adaptation for one without special melee skill)
    – Tier 2: Fortified Mind (sometimes Dodge for ones with high initiative and basal defence, or for ones whose resolve is either high already or too crap to be worth increasing)
    – Tier 3: Shield Expert and Underdog and usually also Brawny (unless the character already has super-high max fatigue) and usually Backstabber as a late pick
    – Tier 4: Weapon Mastery
    – Tier 5: Hold Out
    – Tier 6: Battle Forged (and sometimes Berserker)
    – Tier 7: sometimes Indomitable (for high-energy ones without good defence skills) and sometimes Duellist (for ones with high melee skill, so that they can punish orcs who smash their heater shield)

    For ranged fighters with especially high projected ranged skill (could be hunters or poachers or anyone with appropriate talent):

    – Tier 1: Pathfinder (and sometimes Fast Adaptation as a late pick)
    – Tier 2: Bullseye and Dodge and (sometimes) Quick Hands (and sometimes Fortified Mind as a late pick)
    – Tier 3: Anticipation (and Backstabber if using a 2-tile back-up weapon)
    – Tier 4: Bow Mastery (and sometimes a melee weapon mastery)
    – Tier 5: Hold Out
    – Tier 6: sometimes Berserk
    – Tier 7: sometimes Fearsome and sometimes Duellist (if using a 1-handed back-up weapon)

    For hybrid ranged/2-tile fighters (could be sellswords or squires or anyone with appropriate talents):

    – Tier 1: Fast Adaptation and/or Colossus and/or Pathfinder
    – Tier 2: Quick Hands and Dodge (and sometimes Fortified Mind as a late pick)
    – Tier 3: Backstabber and Anticipation (and sometimes Brawny)
    – Tier 4: Ranged weapon mastery (and sometimes a melee weapon mastery as well)
    – Tier 5: Hold Out
    – Tier 6: Berserk (and sometimes Battle Forged)
    – Tier 7: sometimes Fearsome and sometimes Duellist (if using throwing weapons)

    For hybrid duellists with high melee defence/talent:

    – Tier 1: Fast Adaptation and/or Pathfinder (and sometimes Colossus or Nine Lives as a late pick)
    – Tier 2: Dodge and Quick Hands (and sometimes Fortified Mind as a late pick)
    – Tier 3: Underdog (and sometimes Brawny)
    – Tier 4: Throwing Mastery and a melee weapon mastery
    – Tier 5: Hold Out
    – Tier 6: Nimble (and sometimes Berserk)
    – Tier 7: Duellist (and sometimes Fearsome)

    For hybrid duellists with high ranged defence/talent:

    – Tier 1: Fast Adaptation and/or Pathfinder (and sometimes Colossus as a late pick)
    – Tier 2: Quick Hands and sometimes Dodge (and sometimes Fortified Mind as a late pick)
    – Tier 3: Anticipation (and sometimes Brawny)
    – Tier 4: Throwing Mastery and a melee weapon mastery
    – Tier 5: Hold Out and Footwork
    – Tier 6: sometimes Berserk
    – Tier 7: Duellist (and sometimes Fearsome)

    For prospective 2-handers (1- or 2-tile) who can fight in the front or back lines (could be sellswords or swordmasters or hedge knights or wildmen or anyone with appropriate talents):

    – Tier 1: Fast Adaptation and/or Colossus and/or Pathfinder and/or Adrenaline
    – Tier 2: Dodge and/or Fortified Mind
    – Tier 3: Underdog and usually Brawny (and sometimes Backstabber and/or Anticipation)
    – Tier 4: Weapon mastery
    – Tier 5: Hold Out and (if melee defence is good enough to take advantage of it) Reach Advantage (and occasionally Lone Wolf for great-axers)
    – Tier 6: Berserk and/or Nimble and/or Battle Forged
    – Tier 7: sometimes Killing Frenzy and sometimes (for ones with high max fatigue but not enough defence to use Reach Advantage) Indomitable

    Medieval suicide bombers with good attack but no defence skills/talents:

    – Tier 1: Adrenaline and Fast Adaptation (and Colossus and Nine Lives and Crippling Strikes would also be good)
    – Tier 2: Quick Hands (and Fortified Mind would also be good)
    – Tier 3: Backstabber
    – Tier 4: Crossbow Mastery (and sometimes melee weapon mastery)
    – Tier 5: Hold Out (and sometimes Footwork)
    – Tier 6: Berserk
    – Tier 7: potentially any of them (not that they ever get this far anyway)

    For high-initiative characters with good defence skills+talents (often thieves and gamblers):

    – Tier 1: Pathfinder (sometimes Colossus or Nine Lives or Fast Adaptation as a late pick)
    – Tier 2: Dodge (sometimes Fortified Mind as a late pick)
    – Tier 3: Underdog and Anticipation (and sometimes Brawny)
    – Tier 4: often nothing (just give them a goblin pike or something) but as applicable to their skills/talents (Sword Mastery if using a warbrand for Reach Advantage)
    – Tier 5: Hold Out and Lone Wolf (and maybe Reach Advantage if their melee skill is good enough and you’ve made them Berserk)
    – Tier 6: Nimble (and sometimes Berserk)
    – Tier 7: usually nothing (but as applicable to weapons and skills)

    #19333
    DanubianDanubian
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    For actual talents i would say melee defense, you can never have too much melee defense :P

    For perks, i would say brawny and erm the first tier one to the most right was it, student? The one that gives you exp bonus and a perk when you level up, thats probably one of the best perks in game. Apart form that you want a weapon specialization, you want the underdog, the one that gives additional fear on strikes and the one that gives hit chance to the head. After that youre pretty much set.

    #19403
    Johnsmith24601Johnsmith24601
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    Fast adaptation should be your first pick for ANY character, seriously. Your brothers start out basically blind and need all the help they can get to even hit their targets. And then you should get nine lives for all those cheap MEAT SHIELDS that you hired ;) Like the beggars and cripples…yeah, those guys aren’t gonna last long anyway.

    #20024
    le_souriceau
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    Mostly agree with Wargasm.

    From my experience battle-forged is MUST for every frontal shield figher or heavy 2h build.

    Anticipation + Dodge is must for archers as protection. It gives just a little more chances against [current build] crazy enemy sniping. I even go so far to give them Overhelm for “tactical supression” (but this is debatable option).

    Fearsome is very useful for any warhammer specialist/or just casual user (they trigger morale check with EVERY HIT AGAINS EVERYONE LIVING). Its posible to break very fast even orc warriors (especially with some sort of Adrenaline helped spam of attacks for 2 rounds in row). But useless against undead wich is now large part of problems. But nice trade-off. May be considered.

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