Topic: Sickening Stalemate Battles After Being Ceaselessly Pursued on the World Map

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  • #19999
    Wargasm
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    Thanks to the switch back to more defensive behaviours from enemies (when they have ranged fighters), there are now far too many instances of enemy parties relentlessly pursuing you on the world map but then sitting still in a defensive position in battle, so that you have to endure a tedious advance or retreat to/from a battle that the inert enemy imposed upon you in the first place.

    Why not make it that any enemy that pursues you on the world map will always advance aggressively in battle?

    Or make it more possible to avoid unwanted confrontations on the world map, by adding a “Fall Back” option to the pre-battle screen (as for caravan battles) and making the enemy pause for a while after the fall back (as when you retreat from a battle), so that there’s a few seconds to achieve a bit of distance?

    #20004
    Human Warlord
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    Indeed it feels realy stupid when some shit bandits following you step by step all the frigging world(this is not fair dont they eat or sleep!?) And in some cases many cities dont even have militia, and all those patrools are miraculously gone somewhere but not around damn cities.
    Actually good method in such situations is to use docks to teleport to another city, doing so will basicaly erease your footprints and enemy will be unable to follow you.

    #20023
    Ioci
    Participant

    thats why i hate goblin ambusher so much, with their present, even the wolf rider wont charge.

    #20035
    Rap
    Keymaster

    This was changed a while ago already. If the enemy doesn’t act offensively in combat after having attacked on the world map, then it’s a bug, and I’d appreciate it if one of you could send a save showing this behavior to contact@overhypestudios.com – thanks!

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    #20041
    Wargasm
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    This was changed a while ago already. If the enemy doesn’t act offensively in combat after having attacked on the world map, then it’s a bug, and I’d appreciate it if one of you could send a save showing this behavior to contact@overhypestudios.com – thanks!

    Was the change something that’ll only take effect in fresh campaigns? I think I did most recently see it in a fresh campaign on the .24 version, but I’m not completely certain. I’ll try to capture it in a save from a fresh campaign sometime today.

    #20042
    Rap
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    A fresh campaign is not required for this to take effect.

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    #20076
    Wargasm
    Participant

    Is it possible that (although the enemy was pursuing and would definitely have attacked if we’d remained still) my band was technically regarded as the offensive party, since I finally got sick of the chase and decided to turn on them to get it over with? In that situation, would the enemy AI remain configured as offensive (since it had the intention to attack) or would it have been switched to defensive mode because I (technically) initiated the battle?

    #20078
    Rap
    Keymaster

    The party that initiated combat is regarded the attacker, so if you were to click on them first to open the engage dialog, they’d technically be on the defensive and be free to choose whether to charge or hold position.

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    #20098
    Ioci
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    its true, i just fought a goblin party who attacked me, they actually charged, one of the ambushers even stepped 2 hexes forward.

    #20123
    Wargasm
    Participant

    The party that initiated combat is regarded the attacker, so if you were to click on them first to open the engage dialog, they’d technically be on the defensive and be free to choose whether to charge or hold position.

    Then that’ll be what was happening, since I always turn back and fight if trying to escape is too laborious. Could enemy parties not be made to always be offensive in battle if they were going to attack anyway (i.e. if they believed themselves stronger)? There have been so many times when I’ve decided to click back on a pursuing party just to save the bother of a long chase, only to have the even greater bother of a stalemate. And I’ve played the game for obscene thousands of hours while continuing to make such mistakes. I suspect that lots of newer players will do what I did and get frustrated by it.

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