Topic: Offense Skill Tree Discussion
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New day new beginnings.
Nothing makes you imagination fly free more than a boring eventless day at work. So I decided to fill it in. And the topic will be Skills. I’d like to start a discussion about the current skills in their current state now at the start of Early Access v0.4.0.22 . This is based on my play session so far. I’d like to encourage all players to give their opinions, share their point of view together we might get the feedback the devs are looking for and improve the game we all obviously would like to succeed and give us, the players as much fun as possible. When replying to specific skills please keep the format “skillname: opinion” and an empty row between skills.
Before we start let me just paint the picture a bit more. I jumped in the game blindly, all info I had was from few gameplay videos on Das’s channel on youtube. Had even no idea what the lvl cap is. My first band the “wolves” died on the first day by werewolf hunters. This is my second start. After the first day rape thought only the expensive guys aren’t expendable and that early game I should focus on the possibly cheapest sellswords. When starting I had in mind a balanced party with all weapon types. Was going to do dedicated defenders and attackers. Thought the skill trees as usually in other games will force the chars to a specific role rendering them much weaker or even useless in others. Well… I couldn’t be more wrong. And that’s fantastic. When I started to realize this still in early game, decided to pick a big variety of skills just to see how they work and what combos can be made. So yeah, did a lot of not so good choices. And still the warband lives long and… sometimes loses a few members making it possible for me to try the high cost high upkeep guys and getting them skills I never had before.
Offensive Skill Tree (BB_OffensiveTree.jpg)
TIER 1
Sundering Strikes: Found this skill very useful. The more the game progressed, the more armored enemies became the more useful this skill was. For any weapon / role. This skill was shining at the fights with the orc warriors and leader. It is perfect as is.
Crusher: This one was fine at the early stages, later on it became less and less effective. Now at day 65 don’t even use it at all. My band has only two freshman all others are max level, having high attack skill. Mid / late imo rarely useful. But it is a tier 1 skill after all.
Bloody Harvest: A must have skill for 2h sword users, occasionally for the axe ones. It is much easier to line up for multi target attack with sword. Swords have two skills dedicated for this and both have more useful criteria to execute than the one axe has. Just remember you do not have to run with 2h weapons from the very start, you can easily start with shield switching to 2h later when you feel safe for the char.
Executioner: Absolutely useless. Extremely useless. The only enemies that have enough hp for this are orc warriors and leaders. Everything else dies from one hit anyway when they below 50%. This skill needs to be reworked or replaced entirely.
Push the Advantage: Now head hits are automatically crits right? With these bonuses this one skill is just OP. The only drawback is that you need a blunt weapon or a good hit from a 2h. O …ing P. Should be nerfed or better placed in tier 2.
Fast Adaptation: Truly universal skill. One could even argue that the 2h have a good use of it, I personally did not simply based on the one hit / turn limitation. But anyone else independent of weapon type benefits greatly from the very early to the very end. A very strong skill, weakens as the char gets more tohit not much tho. For archers it is ideal as is, for melee maybe a little too much. Definitely a tier 1, perhaps could use a 5% nerf.
TIER 2
Berserk: The ultimate win skill. Giving a second hit to a 2h weapon or a third to a 1h or bow. Combined with the tier3 killing frenzy, your farmer simply becomes a juggernaut, or the ultimate god of war. It is fine as it is, you still need a killing blow to trigger. Tier 2 is the right place maybe tier 3. Love it.
Head Hunter: Well. Is a good skill for anyone and great for the 2h users with multiple targeting. You like decapitations? How about double or even triple? Think it is in the right place and does not need change, the trigger is good. Don’t be mistaken you won’t all the time chopping off multiple heads, but when it happens it will feel satisfactory!
Full Force: Simple passive skill. Any character with heavy armor benefits, since I tend to equip the hardest ones on my 2h guys this skill usually a guarantees a one hit kill. With armor of 200 you gain +20 maximum damage. I’m fine with it as it is, not too much not too little.
Debilitate: Never used this one, can’t say much about it. On paper it looks nice. With a skill of 60 the bonus to any following hit is +18. Should be perfect against “fat” targets like leaders orc warriors.
Bullseye: Definitely worth it. Especially with the tier 3 perfect focus. An arrow rain that hits everywhere. With lucky shots can kill of up to 4 enemy in the first turn using this combo. Ofc the packing up enemies getting defense bonuses from each other can’t escape no more. Good skill, right tier.
Close Combat Archer: Situation specific skill. Either behind a defensive line or death from above. Rarely can be lifesaving when an enemy breaks through. Considering the triggers maybe is fine. Personally had only few times when could use.
TIER 3
Killing Frenzy: Superb skill for any time any place any weapon. When combined with berserk unstoppable. Have it on a char with 2h, one hits, decapitations and mass massacres have become his daily routine. Maybe overpowered. Hard to single it out when having lot other skill effects. Definitely right tier.
Perfect Focus: It is perfect. For one turn. A deadly turn. Good in combination with light armored archers especially with bullseye. Or lighter, more fatigue having melees. With melee consider combining it with an other chars Rotation skill, to unload the steel storm just to be rotated to back row and catch breath. Is fine as is with the heavy throwback after use.
Please do write your thoughts, suggestions, comments, perhaps skill ideas. Together we are strong, together we are the battle brothers. Hehe.
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